Host Reed Galen is joined by fellow Lincoln Project Co-Founder Rick Wilson and retired United States Army Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman who was the former Director for European Affairs for the United States National Security Council. Vindman came to national attention in October 2019 when he testified before the United States Congress regarding the Trump–Ukraine scandal. His testimony provided evidence that resulted in Donald Trump’s first impeachment charge. Vindman discusses with Reed and Rick what it was like to witness the Trump/Zelensky call, the fallout that occurred, and how he maintained his integrity in the face of adversity. To learn more about Vindman’s story be sure to check out his newly released memoir, Here, Right Matters (https://www.amazon.com/Here-Right-Matters-American-Story/dp/0063079429/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=here%2C+right+matters&qid=1628170185&sr=8-1).